1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:04,800 we're here in the International Space 2 00:00:07,829 --> 00:00:06,250 Station flight control room here at the 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:07,839 Johnson Space Center and it's my 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:09,970 privilege today to have European Space 5 00:00:13,470 --> 00:00:11,890 Agency astronaut Luca parmitano joining 6 00:00:14,790 --> 00:00:13,480 us thank you so much for making the time 7 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:14,800 with us this morning thank you for 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:16,630 having me it's a pleasure to be here so 9 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:19,089 it's an exciting weekend even the tempo 10 00:00:22,050 --> 00:00:20,320 here in the flight control room is a 11 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:22,060 little up everybody's getting ready 12 00:00:26,970 --> 00:00:24,249 turning their focus for the departure 13 00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:26,980 and re-entry of the ATV vehicle one is a 14 00:00:30,929 --> 00:00:28,990 Capcom I find that this room is always 15 00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:30,939 exciting but of course today there is a 16 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:33,220 heightened sense of happening because of 17 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:35,410 all the operations going on on station 18 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:38,350 it's a been a hallmark program for the 19 00:00:41,610 --> 00:00:39,850 European Space Agency can you tell us 20 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:41,620 some of the highlights for the ATV from 21 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:46,720 your standpoint well c5 absolutely 22 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:49,870 flawless missions and it I call the ATV 23 00:00:54,450 --> 00:00:52,330 the flagship of the International Space 24 00:00:56,250 --> 00:00:54,460 Station Cargo Fleet because it is the 25 00:01:00,890 --> 00:00:56,260 biggest it's the one with the most cargo 26 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:00,900 and on on the European western side of 27 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:03,460 the station is the only one that is 28 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:06,640 completely automated and I like to 29 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:09,700 remind how it launches from kourou in 30 00:01:14,609 --> 00:01:11,890 French keenya it travels for little 31 00:01:17,130 --> 00:01:14,619 millions of miles or kilometers and it 32 00:01:20,010 --> 00:01:17,140 docks with a precision of about one 33 00:01:21,989 --> 00:01:20,020 centimeter or half an inch completely 34 00:01:23,940 --> 00:01:21,999 automated it's it's a fantastic 35 00:01:26,969 --> 00:01:23,950 demonstration of Technology European 36 00:01:29,789 --> 00:01:26,979 technology there is a lot of of Italy in 37 00:01:31,709 --> 00:01:29,799 an ATV and as an Italian astronaut I'm 38 00:01:34,709 --> 00:01:31,719 almost obviously very proud of it too so 39 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:34,719 it's been a fantastic program and it's 40 00:01:38,849 --> 00:01:36,310 been a little bit of sadness that I see 41 00:01:40,649 --> 00:01:38,859 it coming to a conclusion we can 42 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:40,659 understand one thing that I found 43 00:01:44,309 --> 00:01:42,249 fascinating is we all tend to think of a 44 00:01:47,010 --> 00:01:44,319 TV is just a cargo craft but really it's 45 00:01:49,679 --> 00:01:47,020 capable of a lot more and this ATV 5 46 00:01:51,330 --> 00:01:49,689 especially has done a few more extra 47 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:51,340 special things can you talk us through a 48 00:01:56,749 --> 00:01:52,770 little bit more about those capabilities 49 00:01:59,639 --> 00:01:56,759 absolutely first of all the the 50 00:02:00,989 --> 00:01:59,649 pressurized volume of the ATV is really 51 00:02:03,719 --> 00:02:00,999 is really being is really nice so 52 00:02:05,609 --> 00:02:03,729 basically it becomes an extra module one 53 00:02:08,490 --> 00:02:05,619 sea dogs on the space station and it's 54 00:02:11,490 --> 00:02:08,500 nice to have the storage area to have 55 00:02:13,230 --> 00:02:11,500 that it also very quiet too so it it's a 56 00:02:15,420 --> 00:02:13,240 nice environment to be in 57 00:02:17,700 --> 00:02:15,430 to start with also because of its 58 00:02:19,170 --> 00:02:17,710 powerful engines and the way it docks to 59 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:19,180 the other part of the space station it's 60 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:22,420 been used several times through its five 61 00:02:30,330 --> 00:02:26,550 missions for PM's maneuvers they are the 62 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:30,340 two avoidance maneuver in order to 63 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:33,790 change the orbit of the space station in 64 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:36,100 case there is any chance of a collision 65 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:38,830 with one of those space debris or other 66 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:41,670 things coming in so that is a fantastic 67 00:02:52,190 --> 00:02:47,140 way to employ it also it because it 68 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:52,200 brings it brings cargo but also fuel 69 00:02:58,590 --> 00:02:55,690 water all kind all kinds of different 70 00:03:01,170 --> 00:02:58,600 gases it's it's also a way to keep the 71 00:03:03,330 --> 00:03:01,180 station pressurize it's a it's a good so 72 00:03:06,570 --> 00:03:03,340 it's a great source of all resources and 73 00:03:10,010 --> 00:03:06,580 then it also obviously it's used to 74 00:03:12,570 --> 00:03:10,020 dispose of trash which is a incredibly 75 00:03:15,060 --> 00:03:12,580 incredibly big problem the space station 76 00:03:16,950 --> 00:03:15,070 get getting rid of the trash show that 77 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:16,960 big volume of the other activity really 78 00:03:19,830 --> 00:03:18,400 helps in that sense yeah absolutely 79 00:03:21,690 --> 00:03:19,840 that's probably something people don't 80 00:03:23,010 --> 00:03:21,700 think about so much is everything that 81 00:03:24,510 --> 00:03:23,020 we're bringing up you know there's only 82 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:24,520 so much room in the space station and 83 00:03:28,530 --> 00:03:26,650 managing all of that stowage and getting 84 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:28,540 rid of unneeded items is a big priority 85 00:03:33,330 --> 00:03:30,610 and a big logistical issue so this is 86 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:33,340 key for that it is I like to remind the 87 00:03:38,010 --> 00:03:36,190 ATV that when we see it compared to the 88 00:03:40,350 --> 00:03:38,020 space station we don't get a sense of 89 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:40,360 the size but for people on the ground I 90 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:41,830 like to remind them it's as big as a 91 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:44,350 double-decker from London one of those 92 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:46,570 big buses that deter around and that's 93 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:49,050 how big the ATV is it's really a big 94 00:03:53,730 --> 00:03:52,090 spacecraft so you touched on this a 95 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:53,740 little bit earlier in the interview but 96 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:55,120 can you talk to us a little bit about 97 00:03:58,230 --> 00:03:57,250 what this program has meant for ISA and 98 00:03:59,610 --> 00:03:58,240 the European countries and especially 99 00:04:01,680 --> 00:03:59,620 you were talking before an interview 100 00:04:02,850 --> 00:04:01,690 about coming from Italy and what that 101 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:02,860 means because they've had a role with a 102 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:06,730 TV well certainly first of all a TV has 103 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:09,580 been a very successful program and it 104 00:04:14,690 --> 00:04:12,280 has given us an opportunity to cooperate 105 00:04:17,610 --> 00:04:14,700 with NASA and the other space agency and 106 00:04:22,260 --> 00:04:17,620 to be part of the International Space 107 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:22,270 Station program it is let us develop 108 00:04:27,210 --> 00:04:25,330 engines navigation systems again I 109 00:04:29,580 --> 00:04:27,220 reminded earlier how precise a 110 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:29,590 navigation system is and this will help 111 00:04:35,309 --> 00:04:31,680 us in the future without a spacecraft 112 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:35,319 the legacy of the ATV doesn't disappear 113 00:04:40,430 --> 00:04:36,970 with the conclusion of the program 114 00:04:44,189 --> 00:04:40,440 because the evolution of the ATV will be 115 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:44,199 the service module for or I on the next 116 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:46,330 great cooperation between the European 117 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:48,190 Space Agency Europe and the United 118 00:04:54,719 --> 00:04:51,550 States and NASA and so what we learned 119 00:04:57,149 --> 00:04:54,729 in this f and this amazing years of 120 00:05:01,649 --> 00:04:57,159 using the spacecraft will be will be 121 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:01,659 really come useful when we develop the 122 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:04,930 new service module that's a very good 123 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:06,550 point you know as you said this might be 124 00:05:09,450 --> 00:05:08,050 a little sad for some people who've 125 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:09,460 supported a TV through all these 126 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:11,530 missions but what a great testament to 127 00:05:15,499 --> 00:05:12,849 the capabilities that it's going to be 128 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:15,509 part of Orion and continuing forward 129 00:05:21,629 --> 00:05:19,870 absolutely and again this is a little 130 00:05:24,570 --> 00:05:21,639 bit comparable to what happened with the 131 00:05:26,850 --> 00:05:24,580 shuttle programs the shuttle program ATV 132 00:05:29,249 --> 00:05:26,860 these are great programs they helped us 133 00:05:31,589 --> 00:05:29,259 a lot during the years that we have 134 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:31,599 employed them but everything comes to an 135 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:33,460 end and it doesn't it doesn't end there 136 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:35,680 it continues into the evolution of the 137 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:38,680 program and I think it's great that the 138 00:05:44,370 --> 00:05:39,969 evolution of both the shuttle program 139 00:05:47,370 --> 00:05:44,380 and an ATV comes together in a common 140 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:47,380 ground which is the Orion during program 141 00:05:53,370 --> 00:05:51,340 for to go beyond low-earth orbit and I'm 142 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:53,380 sure that the people and the different 143 00:06:00,990 --> 00:05:54,880 control centers are thinking about that 144 00:06:03,050 --> 00:06:01,000 right now as a tv5 the orbit and comes 145 00:06:04,769 --> 00:06:03,060 to find these final resting place 146 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:04,779 absolutely well that's something the 147 00:06:07,709 --> 00:06:06,610 teams here now as well and like you said 148 00:06:09,499 --> 00:06:07,719 it just leads to bigger and better 149 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:09,509 things for future space exploration 150 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:11,650 speaking of the control center i'm 151 00:06:15,719 --> 00:06:13,090 assuming that you've been to the control 152 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,729 center for a TV and what do you think 153 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:17,199 that they're doing today and you've 154 00:06:19,740 --> 00:06:18,370 spoken a little bit about how they might 155 00:06:21,659 --> 00:06:19,750 be feeling but any other words you want 156 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,669 to it's hard to say how they might be 157 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:23,919 feeling I remember how I felt when I let 158 00:06:28,860 --> 00:06:27,039 go of a TV for a year and a half ago it 159 00:06:31,649 --> 00:06:28,870 was my privilege to be on board I 160 00:06:32,890 --> 00:06:31,659 captured and let go of a TV for Albert 161 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:32,900 Einstein 162 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:34,610 if felt that it would be like letting go 163 00:06:38,650 --> 00:06:37,040 of a friend because it was with us the 164 00:06:40,810 --> 00:06:38,660 whole six months on my permanency 165 00:06:43,870 --> 00:06:40,820 brought he brought our food our clothes 166 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:43,880 so for us he was a for me was a very 167 00:06:50,409 --> 00:06:47,210 special feeling it way it was you know I 168 00:06:52,990 --> 00:06:50,419 always tend to say that it came bring he 169 00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:53,000 brought up not only our our food or 170 00:06:57,129 --> 00:06:54,470 clothes our experiment but also all the 171 00:06:59,620 --> 00:06:57,139 dreams of the people that that built the 172 00:07:01,540 --> 00:06:59,630 spacecraft that put their work and their 173 00:07:04,210 --> 00:07:01,550 hours and all their passion into what 174 00:07:07,659 --> 00:07:04,220 they do a little bit of that will be 175 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:07,669 certainly today present in a DTV control 176 00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:10,850 center into loose but right now they are 177 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:13,190 probably focusing on the myriad of 178 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,020 operations that they need to do in order 179 00:07:18,850 --> 00:07:17,360 to the orbit the spacecraft correctly 180 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:18,860 even though it's not automatic vehicle 181 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:21,289 the man is always in the loop they have 182 00:07:24,430 --> 00:07:22,639 to make sure that all the all the 183 00:07:26,890 --> 00:07:24,440 progress are working correctly that the 184 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:26,900 data they're receiving are the ones that 185 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:29,090 are expected that the past the 186 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:31,400 spacecraft is taking is according to the 187 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:34,250 plan and they will be sending command at 188 00:07:39,490 --> 00:07:36,650 time from time to time allowing the 189 00:07:42,159 --> 00:07:39,500 spacecraft computers to go on to the 190 00:07:43,210 --> 00:07:42,169 next step well we will definitely be 191 00:07:45,060 --> 00:07:43,220 following along with all of those 192 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:45,070 activities and of course covering that 193 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:47,449 starting tomorrow on s TV so 194 00:07:51,219 --> 00:07:49,310 congratulations to you and all of the 195 00:07:52,899 --> 00:07:51,229 European Space Agency team and we'll be 196 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:52,909 following along and looking forward to 197 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:55,310 and things yet to come well I'll uh I 198 00:07:58,450 --> 00:07:56,510 think that right now we need to 199 00:08:01,060 --> 00:07:58,460 congratulate the crew on orbit that I 200 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:01,070 did a great job with the unlocking and 201 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:04,610 certainly the the European engineers and 202 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:07,930 and throughout the space agency that 203 00:08:13,810 --> 00:08:10,490 started this program and brought it to a 204 00:08:15,730 --> 00:08:13,820 successful conclusion and it thank you 205 00:08:18,610 --> 00:08:15,740 for having me here and let me let me